The Dreaded Health Department – Why so Difficult?

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The Dreaded Health Department – Why do they make life so difficult?

Every day I speak to folks trying to break into the Ice Cream or Italian Ice outdoor vending business. And every day I hear the frustration they experience when trying to get permits to street vend.

I’m talking entrepreneurs who are just trying to make an honest buck and do it legally. They are treated like they plan on spreading the plague. I understand the need to keep our public safe…..and yes, the health department plays an important role. But you would think the health department would be a little more business friendly.

If I was to list every variation and interpretation of the rules, I’d probably be writing for years. Even within the same county, one person will tell you one thing and the other will tell you another. But if you are trying to break into this business, don’t lose faith. Be persistent and you will find a way.

Vending Italian ice seems to be one of the more popular businesses to get into. The cost of entry can be relatively low, so it makes sense that a lot of people see it as a way to make some decent cash without taking major financial risks.

The lowest cost way to break into vending Italian ice outdoors is to buy a basic push cart with or without refrigeration. It’s much easier to get a permit to sell Italian water ice simply because it is water based as opposed to containing dairy. Some health departments will allow vendors to peddle Italian ice without refrigeration or any type of sink system. They simply tell the vendor to use a separate scooper for each flavor, and not to cross contaminate the flavors. Seems simple enough.

But most health departments will tell people that they need to have a hand washing station. When you only have a few thousand dollars to invest, and most of that is going toward your cart, it’s tough to hear that you need a hand washing sink with running hot water. We sell these outdoor sink systems at TurnKeyParlor.com, but they are very high quality stainless steel mobile sinks and run about $2000.

So what are the options if the health department is telling you that the only way you will get a vending permit is if you have a sink with hot water….and you don’t have an extra $2k to invest? Here’s the good news: one of our more industrious customers (Chico Pagan of  Kiki’s Italian Ice to be specific) has found an inexpensive way to try and meet this requirement. You can go to Amazon.com (see the link below) and get a Coleman hot water on demand unit. This, along with a little ingenuity and a 5 gallon “catch” bucket may meet the requirement. Essentially, you put the fresh water tank on top of a table, connect it to the Coleman propane unit and there you have it. Fresh hot water, complete with the spigot and waste water bucket. All for well under $300.

I hope this helps those who have limited funds and are trying to break into the business.

If you came across an idea that helped you meet health department requirements, or anything in general that helped your vending business, please share your story by posting a comment.

Here’s the link to the Coleman system: Outdoor Coleman Hot Water On Demand System

Thanks,

Neil Williams
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9 Responses to The Dreaded Health Department – Why so Difficult?
  1. Ice Cream Truck
    April 1, 2010 | 11:59 am

    That’s a great idea. Thanks! Innovative solutions that work for a fraction of the cost are just what people starting a business need. When you’re starting a business, there are already so many up front costs. It’s always exciting to figure out ways you can reduce those costs.

  2. Michelle
    June 5, 2010 | 3:15 pm

    i needed this info too. can’t believe how difficult they make it when a person is just starting out.

  3. Gigi
    August 25, 2010 | 3:03 pm

    Is there a special ingredient to enhance the flavor of water ice?

  4. suzette
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    i am starting a icecream business and i would like to know the price for a vending cart

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    I haven’t started yet, but if pressed for a hot water hand wash station, I was going to see if I could use a bucket & my Zodi (http://www.zodi.com/).

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Make Your Own Ice Cream or Buy 3 Gallon Containers from a Distributor?

Make Your Own Ice CreamWhat’s the better option, making your own ice cream or buying and reselling 3 gallon tubs of  a recognized brand? Truthfully, there is no right answer. Both could be great options. This  post will simply to outline reasons why you would go in one direction vs. the other depending on your specific situation and your specific goals.

This question is frequently debated and asked by almost everyone planning to enter the ice cream store business. In my opinion, it depends on many factors.  I encourage those of you who make your own or buy a national brand in 3 gallon cans to post what led you to your specific strategy.

I’ll start with the benefits of buying a national or strong regional ice cream brand that is pre-packaged in 3 or 2.5 gallon round tubs:

  • People like to buy what they are familiar with
  • Initial investment is lower – you only have to buy dipping cabinets and storage cabinets vs. a batch freezer, hardening cabinet, dipping cabinets, etc.
  • Less machinery means less utilities expense
  • Product consistency – making your own can also be consistent if you are the only one doing it, but once you have employees start making ice cream too, it can get tricky to maintain that consistency
  • Simplicity – no manufacturing labor - you buy 3 gallon tubs from an ice cream distributor, you drop them in the dipping cabinet and scoop away

Ok, now we move on to why making your own ice cream  might be the best choice:

  • Cost – normal markup on ice cream you purchase from a distributor allows you to make around 70% gross profit when charging what the market will bear.  In other words, if you charge $2 for a scoop, your cost is about $.60 for that scoop. When you make your own, the materials cost is much lower. That $2 scoop should cost you more  like $.30-$.40. If you make Italian Ices, your cost is even less
  • Exclusivity – Only YOU can sell your ice cream. Customers can buy national brands in many parlors and can also pick them up at the local grocery store
  • Variety – With an Emery-Thompson Batch Freezer, you can make not only ice cream, but you can also make your own Italian Ice and Gelato.
  • Homemade - People love homemade ice cream. Customers like the idea that the ice cream is made fresh and with a local twist to it. Customers like to see and know the owner of the business
  • Creativity – You can invent new flavors. You can make changes to the product suit your region’s tastes. You can hold contests for new flavors using social media tools. The options are limitless
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As you can see, the decision to make your own or purchase a pre-made product depends on many factors. You can make good money with both options.  For those who are on a tighter budget, the best option might be to start with a pre-packaged product.  For those of you who are creative and have the necessary start-up financing, you might want to consider making your own.

Look forward to hearing the comments and stories of those who have made the decision one way or another.

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Neil

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